{"id":7323,"date":"2017-02-13T09:37:04","date_gmt":"2017-02-13T14:37:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/?p=7323"},"modified":"2018-04-13T13:52:58","modified_gmt":"2018-04-13T18:52:58","slug":"online-tutor-classroom-teacher-how-written-feedback-shifts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/online-tutor-classroom-teacher-how-written-feedback-shifts\/","title":{"rendered":"Online Tutor. Classroom Teacher. How Written Feedback Shifts"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div><h4><strong>By Matthew Fledderjohann &#8211;<\/strong><\/h4>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7406\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7406\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7406\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1920-e1486965211133-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"339\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1920-e1486965211133-266x300.jpg 266w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1920-e1486965211133-768x867.jpg 768w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1920-e1486965211133-907x1024.jpg 907w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1920-e1486965211133.jpg 1004w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7406\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Matthew is a PhD student at UW-Madison studying\u00a0composition pedagogy, revision theory, and apocalyptic rhetoric. He is currently serving as the Online Writing Center Coordinator for the UW-Madison writing center. \u00a0He has been a writing center tutor at Purdue University Northwest and DePaul University.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Whether I\u2019m responding to a piece of writing as a composition teacher or as a writing center tutor, my comments look similar. I plug in Microsoft Word\u2019s two-toned comment bubbles and write things like, \u201cHmm . . . I\u2019m not sure how this sentence connects to the purpose of the paragraph. Could you make that connection clearer, cut this sentence, or fit it into the next paragraph?\u201d I use different colors to highlight lower-level error patterns. I compose a summative note about my overall impressions of the piece and recommendations for revision. \u00a0I email the commented-on document back to the writer.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>My responses look similar and do similar pedagogical work, but they aren\u2019t identical. When I compose that summative note as a tutor, I work within a more rigid feedback structure; I identify one strength and two areas to work on. When I\u2019m the writer\u2019s teacher, I\u2019m looser with that template, but as a teacher, I find myself referencing the assignment\u2019s prompt more knowledgeably. It makes sense that my role as a composition teacher and my responsibilities as a writing center tutor should affect my written feedback differently. After all, tutoring and teaching are two different educative processes that come along with different sets of expectations. Tutoring and teaching exist within separate (if similar) contexts. Given all this, I&#8217;m interested in exploring\u00a0how these variations in context, expectations, and responsibilities influence written feedback practices. And I want to consider\u00a0how reflecting on the differences apparent in our written comments across instructional roles productively inform our pedagogy as both teachers and tutors.<\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7337 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-3-300x88.png\" width=\"300\" height=\"88\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-3-300x88.png 300w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-3.png 627w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3>Good Feedback is Good Feedback<\/h3>\n<p>The fact that my responses as a tutor mirror my responses as a teacher is unsurprising. Both situations have me engaging as a curious reader with a writer\u2019s text. Nancy Sommers, in her canonical article \u201cResponding to Student Writing,\u201d asserts that as composition teachers \u201cwe comment on student writing to dramatize the presence of a reader, to help our students to become that questioning reader themselves\u201d (148). Whether as tutors or teachers, we show up as generous, responsive readers.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-7329 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Online-Writing-Conference-150x150.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/>As a result, the reading and responding practices we employ as tutors and teachers share a common set of priorities. These commonalities become particularly apparent when we consider how the advice for good written feedback is the same for tutors and teachers. In her (highly recommended) book <em>The Online Writing Conference<\/em>, Beth Hewett forgoes distinctions and says that she is writing for \u201cteachers\/tutors\u201d (3). What she has to say about responding to writing through online mediums (i.e. email, screencasts, and synchronous technology) is equally applicable to people in both instructional roles. Similarly, the <a href=\"https:\/\/teachingcenter.wustl.edu\/resources\/writing-assignments-feedback\/commenting-on-student-writing\/\">great advice<\/a> that Washington University in St. Louis provides its teachers on how to productively comment on student papers could just as easily be recommendations for tutors preparing to write comments on a tutee\u2019s text.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, as Dave Healy assured the writing center community back in 1993, the writing center and the classroom are different (if complementary) spaces. Despite the similarities, writing center tutors and composition teachers are subject to different responsibilities, contexts, and expectations. Which reaffirms the question, \u201cHow does our feedback change across these different spaces?\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>A Questionnaire<\/h3>\n<p>To pursue this question, I asked several of my writing center colleagues to fill out a little questionnaire. I asked them how long they\u2019ve taught composition, how long they\u2019ve been responding to writing as a tutor, and what they see as similarities and differences in their written feedback across instructional roles. The six folks who responded were Maggie Hamper, Zach Marshall, and Aaron Vieth (from the writing center at UW-Madison) and Jen Finstrom, Hannah Lee, and Mark Lazio (from DePaul University\u2019s University Center for Writing-based Learning [UCWbL]). Collectively these six tutors\/teachers have accrued 23 years of composition teaching experience and 31 years of responding to writers\u2019 papers through writing as tutors.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7326\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7326\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-7326\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Hannah-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7326\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hannah Lee<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The similarities these educators found between the comments they write as tutors and as teachers are plentiful. Whether they are functioning in either role, they use their written comments to prioritize the writer\u2019s growth and not just the writing\u2019s development. They identify specific strengths within the texts. They use their comments to draw attention to genre conventions and rhetorical awareness. They ask questions as a way of fostering dialogue. Stephen North and Peter Elbow would be proud.<\/p>\n<p>But all of the survey respondents also acknowledged that their feedback is not identical between their two educational roles. Context changes things. In particular, respondents report that their feedback as composition teachers is altered by their closer relationship to the writing assignment and by their ongoing interactions with the writer.<\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7340 size-medium aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-4-300x88.png\" width=\"300\" height=\"88\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-4-300x88.png 300w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-4.png 628w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3>\u201cOwning\u201d the Prompt<\/h3>\n<p>When it comes to the prompt, the tutor is an outsider whereas the teacher is the ultimate insider. As Jen writes, \u201cI know what I\u2019m looking for with my own assignment.\u201d The teacher has concocted the prompt and wields the responsibility of evaluation. This ownership and responsibility gives the teacher an authority over the drafted text that a tutor simply does not have.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7327\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7327\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-7327\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jen-150x150.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7327\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jen Finstrom (photo by the UCWbL)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For several of the survey respondents this altered relationship to the prompt opens up the possibility for more directive comments. Mark says that he is \u201cmore likely to say something more directive of what should be done with the paper when I\u2019m teacher commenting.\u201d Jen writes, \u201cI think that I\u2019m a bit more directive at times in student drafts (though not always).\u201d Conversely, Zach takes a different approach on this topic of directness, reflecting that whether he\u2019s a tutor or a teacher, \u201cI always try to be direct with the way I phrase my advice: not \u2018you might consider x\u2019 but \u2018you should do x because . . .\u2019\u2014I\u2019ve found that being directive doesn\u2019t do the work for students (as some people fear) because there are still many steps between my advice and a better draft.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For several of the survey respondents this altered relationship to the prompt opens up the possibility for more directive comments. Mark says that he is \u201cmore likely to say something more directive of what should be done with the paper when I\u2019m teacher commenting.\u201d Jen offers the same sentiment, writing, \u201cI think that I\u2019m a bit more directive at times in student drafts (though not always).\u201d However, this trend isn\u2019t true for all the respondents. Zach takes a different approach on the issue directness in general. He reflects that whether he\u2019s a tutor or a teacher, \u201cI always try to be direct with the way I phrase my advice: not \u2018you might consider x\u2019 but \u2018you should do x because . . .\u2019\u2014I\u2019ve found that being directive doesn\u2019t do the work for students (as some people fear) because there are still many steps between my advice and a better draft.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7330\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7330\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-7330\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Zach-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7330\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zach Marshall<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Zach\u2019s embrace of direct comments across pedagogical roles resonates with what Beth Hewett has to say on the issue. She has a whole section in <em>The Online Writing Conference <\/em>about using direct over indirect language\u00a0in our written comments (116-129). However, Mark\u2019s and Jen\u2019s sentiment still ring true to my own experience. As a teacher, I\u2019m more willing to gravitate towards directive feedback. As a tutor, I balk at imperatives and default to questions and suggestions.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps our willingness to be directive in our feedback is a function of our increased knowledge of the writing\u2019s content and context. Of course, this increased knowledge connects back to our relationship to the prompt. Aaron reflects:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When I am responding to writing as a teacher, almost all of the time I do know what the student is saying when their prose is unclear, but I will still address vague or unclear phrases. Usually this feedback is phrased like: I understand that you are trying to say x (which is a great point), but this is not clear the way it is worded. Here is how someone could read this to mean y. I suggest fixing z or choosing a different word for z or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>When I address clarity as a tutor, I usually do not know what the writer intends to say. My feedback in this case will point out the unclear language and might offer a few possible readings if I can clearly imagine them. Frequently, though, I am unable to imagine possibilities in these cases and have to rely more on pointing out exactly what language is unclear. In these cases, I think my feedback is more limited because it is hard to offer suggestions when I can&#8217;t tell what the student wants their essay (or whatever) to do.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As teachers, we know what the evaluative reader thinks the writing should be doing since we are that reader. This clarity encourages some of us to more directly assert what is and isn\u2019t working in this text. But the assignment isn\u2019t the only thing we tend to know better when we\u2019re the teacher; we also know the writer. And this relationship can influence our feedback as well.<\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7336 size-medium aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-2-300x87.png\" width=\"300\" height=\"87\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-2-300x87.png 300w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-2.png 625w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3>Knowing the Writer<\/h3>\n<p>According to Mark, when the writer is his student, he\u2019s more blunt; \u201cnot rude or short,\u201d he clarifies, \u201cbut just me and to the point. The student already knows me and we have a bit of a relationship started by the first round of commenting . . . As a tutor I am more aware of the peer role, and I don\u2019t have any idea how this person will react, so I\u2019d say I\u2019m more cautious with phrasing.\u201d Mark mentions that knowing the writer also means knowing the writer\u2019s previous work. Whereas in one-off appointments at the writing center there is no shared history from which to draw, in classroom commenting, there is.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7328\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7328\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-7328\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Mark-150x150.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7328\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mark Lazio (photo by the UCWbL)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Interestingly, while the relational connection between teacher and student might be more enduring than that between a tutor and a tutee, this does not necessarily translate into more writer-centered comments. Maggie recognizes that when she comments as a writing center tutor, she pays more attention to the writer\u2019s concerns. Conversely, \u201cI don\u2019t often ask my students\u2014what are you concerned about with this draft? (Though I probably should!)\u201d Perhaps this connects back to a teacher\u2019s knowledge of the assignment. When we\u2019re the ones who generate the prompt and (as Hannah identifies) hold the evaluative authority of grading, it\u2019s perhaps easier to place a premium on our recommendations over any concerns the writer might have. Perhaps our knowledge of the writer does not supplant our knowledge of the prompt.<\/p>\n<p>In my own practice, knowing the writer means I feel the freedom to be a little more informal. \u00a0I don&#8217;t have to spend an opening paragraph\u00a0situating myself in relationship to the writer and the text. \u00a0The writer knows who I am and (I hope) trusts my capacity to provide productive feedback. Additionally, knowing the writer means I know that our interactions will extend beyond this particular draft. \u00a0I will see the writer in class that next week, so I can ask, &#8220;Does that make sense?&#8221; as a tag at the end of a comment and genuinely mean it. \u00a0There is an expectation for an answer&#8211;whether a direct answer through a follow-up email or after class conversation or an indirect answer through a subsequent revision&#8211;that doesn&#8217;t exist in the writing center context. \u00a0Knowing the writer means being additionally accountable to that individual&#8217;s writing development as instrumentalized through that piece of writing.<\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7335 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-1-300x86.png\" width=\"300\" height=\"86\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-1-300x86.png 300w, https:\/\/dept.writing.wisc.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/picture-1.png 623w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3>Further Questions<\/h3>\n<p>Of course, while we\u2019ve been considering the differences, we shouldn\u2019t lose sight of the many similarities. As Zach reflects, \u201cmy writing center tutoring has so deeply informed what I do in writing classes because I\u2019ve had so much more success with methods I learned as a tutor.\u201d The best practices for providing written feedback suggest that we can and should be bringing our tutorial sensibilities into our composition courses. Although, how can the skill transfer be productively turned the other way? Should who we are as teacher commenters inform our practice as tutors? Beth Hewett would perhaps suggest that we bring that directiveness some of us feel more comfortable with as teachers into our writing center repertoires. As you reflect with me on these issues, I\u2019m interested to hear your thoughts on any of these issues or in response to these questions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>How are your written commenting practices different when you\u2019re a tutor and when you\u2019re the writer\u2019s teacher?<\/li>\n<li>How might our \u201cbest practices\u201d for composing feedback shift in response to the changing contexts of composition teacher and writing tutor?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Writing in response to writing is such an integral way that composition is taught. Whether these commenting processes take place within the writing center or in the classroom, I believe we should continue considering how these shifting contexts and roles might alter or affirm our pedagogical practices.<\/p>\n<h3>Works Cited<\/h3>\n<p>Healy, Dave. \u201cA defense of dualism: The writing center and the classroom.\u201d\u00a0<em>The Writing Center Journal<\/em>, vol. 14, no. 1, 1993, pp. 16-29.<\/p>\n<p>Hewett, Beth. <em>The Online Writing Conference: A Guide for Teachers and Tutors<\/em>. Macmillan Higher Education, 2015.<\/p>\n<p>Sommers, Nancy. \u201cResponding to student writing.\u201d\u00a0<em>College Composition and Communication<\/em>, vol. 33, no. 2, 1982, pp. 148-156.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Matthew Fledderjohann &#8211; Whether I\u2019m responding to a piece of writing as a composition teacher or as a writing center tutor, my comments look similar. 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